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Take Your Pick: Players Or The Owners? by Rich Mancuso /The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com

When boxing promoters begin the process of a mega fight the negotiations of earnings begins at a 50/50 split. There are other elements in the process as they bargain and usually it becomes a 60/40 split with both camps.

With Major League Baseball, and the process of starting an abbreviated season, the process is getting more complicated as it pertains to revenue for the players and owners. 

Blame the baseball politics now on COVID-19 and the pandemic. Boxing, of all sports, well that depends on who you want to believe when the negotiations conclude with their politics. 

Basically, and as you have heard with MLB and the players, this is about economics with the billion dollar owners wanting it their way and the mega million ball players looking at it another way.

And they can’t come to an agreement about a split. 

There is a major division here.  Each day passes with that question of when, where.  How would they commence a different 2020 baseball season with economics as the answer?

Though it should be safe first. with proper testing and protocol to assure that players, coaches, umpires, and other personnel are not at risk of the coronavirus. Instead, it goes back to the question, who wants what? Is it greed of the players or the owners?

Regardless, we all want baseball. We need that diversion. But, this has to be done the proper way, if not there is no way.

A prorated rate of 82 games, projected to be half of the players salaries was negotiated in March with players and MLB and that concludes in two weeks. 

Thenyextra.com,  informed by sources in the players union, would need to return that money received if and when an abbreviated season begins and that’s one of the issues that gets more complicated.

And to the multi-million dollar contract player that does not appear to hurt them in the pocket. To the minimal salary player, that amounts to a major difference. To you, the fans, who would be shut out of the ballparks, it’s both parties racking in revenue.

It’s about those hurting and fighting to put food on the table that are more important than baseball and all sports at this point of time. That, my friends, is more important than playing the game of baseball and a labor war that is developing into a clash between billionaires and millionaires.

Safety, though, as one insider said to this columnist is more important.

“Other than filling the pockets of owners who are safe at home watching the games, it is not going to get the economy going or help the blue collar workers who still will not be back at their jobs. If one person, player, a team personnel becomes infected, is it worth it? What’s the hurry?”

“So they put another asterisk in the history books. It will be a flea on a mountain as far as the important things in baseball history.”

Yes, baseball should not be a priority at this point. The issue of economics and position of bargaining with another contract for players and owners is not the priority.

And when some of the top names in the sport offer their opinion, as they did Thursday, believe me, it’s not only about the money, rather the safety of players and their families along with other personnel.

Something is being said that a certain person in the White House is dictating moves telling the owners to get the economy moving. But that is simply my opinion. 

“Don’t know what else they can do with the safety.” said a NL insider.    “Think they will play, but if they don’t adhere to the agreement made in March about prorated the players won’t play.”

In the meantime, there have been discussions of starting a second spring training in a matter of weeks. Players have been informed to stay in shape and prepare. 

One player contacted said, “They are not telling you that they don’t replace the 83 percent of our salaries we spend on hotels and food.” 

Others contacted said, they want to play but safety was more important to them and their families. In other words, money to them is important but not the issue here. A majority, as one said, “are not for this proposal.” 

So payment of a split that would go more to the owners does not seem fair. Then again, we should not be in this discussion when a pandemic has caused many to lose jobs and not knowing what the future holds. 

Players have been informed to not sweat in locker rooms.  Spitting would not be allowed for safety issues, difficult for a ballplayer because they are creatures of habit.  

Teams would play in home ballparks with no fans if permitted. And of course, no fans means revenue lost from ticket sales, concessions, and parking. 

As of Friday, no word about opening up cities that are major markets to baseball  including  New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Detroit. Toronto and the Canadian border is closed, so the Blue Jays would play at their spring training base in Dunedin Florida.

The Mets and Yankees have a reported contingency plan. They could  possibly play home games at spring training complexes in  Tampa and Port St. Lucie Florida.

Designated hitters in both leagues, a 14-game postseason, games against divisional and regional opponents, expanded rosters to 30 as proposed  is not the issue.  

“There is no minor league system,” said the insider.” That could be an issue if a roster player is not available to play due to injury. 

The amateur draft, scheduled for early next month, is also a question and would be reduced to five rounds. The owners did not want that.  

So it is back to this issue of a season or a lost one. The Marlins and Tampa Bay have furloughed most of their employees and suspended their health plans. That is also an issue.

An issue because it has that impact regarding the well being of office personnel, scouts, and those who are the forefront of a Major League Baseball franchise.

 MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred said on CNN Thursday night,” And if we don’t play a season, the  losses for the owners could approach $4 billion.”

The owners, he said, feel that it is important for the game to be played. 

Yeah, this isn’t boxing and more complicated for baseball when it comes to a split. Who would have ever thought this would be so difficult? 

Not a player will take less money and that seems to be the overall consensus. If they want to play the economics of this will happen. Remember, though, proper safety protocols are more important.

And more importantly, the general public does not want to hear about who is right or wrong here.  But the owners have the money and can give in if they want their game to be played. 

Comment: Ring786@aol.com  Twitter@Ring786 Facebook.com/Rich Mancuso

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This day in sports, May 14th , by Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com

Today in “This day in sport”, features Derek Jeter’s at Yankee Stadium on May 14, 2017. Attending this event was Mariano Rivera, Joe Torre, Tino Martinez, Hedecki Matsui, and Jorge Posada.

05/14/17 Houston Astros vs New York Yankees at Yankee Stadium Bronx ny New York Derek Jeter Number retirement day Derek jeter talks to the crowd today Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
#51 bernie williams is taggged out at home by #6 dan wislon in the 1st inning/Neil Miller/The New York Extra/The NYExtra.com copyright 2020
05/14/06 – oakland athletics Vs. New York Yankees @ Yankee Stadium Yankees lose 6-1/ #22 cano tags #7 crosby with glove not ball allowing a run to score to score on a broken double play in the 9th inning Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
05/14/07 chicago cubs Vs. New York Mets @ Shea Stadium Mets trai9l 4-2 after 4 innings #5 david wright hits 2 run homer int 4th inning Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
05/14/08 Washington Nationals Vs. New York Mets @ shea stadium: Mets starting pitcher Claudio Vargas delivers in the first inning. Vargas makes his Mets debut. Nel Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
05/14/12 New Jersey Devils vs New York Rangers Eastern Conference Finals at MSG New Jersey Devils goalie Martin Brodeur #30 makes a save during the first period. Neil Miller/The New York Extra/The NYExtra.com copyright 2020

This day in sports, May 12th, by Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com

05/13/06 carolina hurricanes Vs New Jersey Devils @ The Continental Arena : Devils # lead 5-1 #27 craig adams tries to dig the puck out from under neath #30 brodeur’s glove in the 2nd period Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
05/13/07 milwaukee brewers Vs. New York Mets @ Shea Stadium Mets #46 oliver perez delivers in the 1st inning Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
05/12/11 Boston Red Sox Vs. New York Yankees at Yankee Stadium Yankees relief pitcher Joba Chamberlain reacts after giving up a two run homer to Red Sox Kevin Youkilis in the 7th inning. Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com cpoyright 2020
05/13/12 ranger practice at msg facilty greenburgh ny New York Rangers center Brian Boyle #22 at practice today Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020

This day in sports, May 12th ,by Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com

05/12/06 – oakland athletics Vs. New York Yankees @ Yankee Stadium / Yankess win 2-0/ #42 rivera delivers pitch in the 9th inning Neil Miller/Rhe New Yotk Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
05/12/07 milwaukee brewers Vs. New York Mets @ Shea Stadium: Mets trail 2-0 after 3 innings #34 mike pelfrey delivers in the 3rd inning Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
5/12/09 Atlanta Braves vs New York Mets at Citi Field queens ny neil miller ny post: A Mets fan streaks across the field during tonight’s game. He slides into second base and then begins to run again just before being caught by security. Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright2020
05/12/11 Kansas City Royals Vs. New York Yankees at Yankee Stadium Yankees 32 derek jeter hits a single in tonights game/ Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
5/12/13 Washington Capitals Vs. New York Rangers at Madison Square Garden-Game 6 of the NHL Playoffs: The New York Rangers score the first goal of the game off a shot by New York Rangers left wing Rick Nash #61. The New York Rangers celebrate the goal during the second period in a NHL playoff game on SUNDAY May 12, 2013. Neil Miller The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
05/12/12 Stanley Cup Eastern Conference semi finals game #7 Washington Capitals vs New York Rangers at msg New York Rangers goalie Henrik Lundqvist #30 reacts after the Rangers defeated the Capitals 2-1. Neil Miller/The New york Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020

This day in sports, May 11th, by Neil Miller/The New York extra/TheNYExtra.com

05/11/06 – Boston Red Sox Vs. New York Yankees @ Yankee Stadium Yankess #55 Hidkei Matsui dives for a catch and breaks his wrist in the first inning. Neil Miller/The New York Extra/The NYExtra.com copyright 2020
05/11/07 milwaukee brewers Vs. New York Mets @ Shea Stadium/ Mets #5 david wright in dugout before the 2nd inning on Play Bald day Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
05/12/08 Cincinnatti Reds Vs. New York Mets @ shea stadium: mets win 8-3 #46 oliver perez pitches in the 1st inning today Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
05/11/10 Washington Nationals Vs. New York Mets at Citi Field Queens N.Y. Mets Angel Pagan get caught in a double play in the 7th inning. Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
05/11/13 Pittsburgh Penguins vs New York Islanders stanley cup playoffs quarter finals game #6 at nassau coliseum uniondale ny score tied 3-3 after 3 periods New York Islanders goalie Evgeni Nabokov #20 makes a save in the 3rd period Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
05/11/18 Oakland Athletics vs New York Yankees at yankee stadium bronx ny New York Yankees left fielder Giancarlo Stanton #27 breaks his bat getting a base hit in tonight’s game Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
05-11-12 NY NY Rangers Vs Washington Capitals Game 7 Semifinal Playoffs: Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020

This day in sports,May 10th, by Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com

05/10/08 Cincinnatti Reds Vs. New York Mets @ shea stadium: game #2 score tied 1-1 after 3 innings #5 david wright is tagged out trying to score on #15 beltran triple in the 3rd inning Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
5/10/09 Pittsburgh Pirates vs New York Mets at Citi Field queens Mets Carlos Delgado hits a double in the fourth inning. Neil Miller/TheNew York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
05/10/10 Washington Nationals Vs. New York Mets at Citi Field Queens N.Y. Mets #12 jeff francouer is out at 3rd base in a run down tonight Neil Miller/TheNew York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
05/10/13 New York Giants at tpc east rutherford nj the rookie class with jerry resse and tom coughlin today back row #72 justin pugh ,#74 matt mccants,#79 damontre moore,#9 ryan nassib front row #30 cooper taylor .#78 eric herman ,#29 micheal cox Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
05/10/14 Philadelphia Phillies vs New York Mets at citifield queens ny Philadelphia Phillies win 5-4 New York Mets third baseman David Wright #5 reacts after making the final out in the game tonight Neil Miller/Te New York extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
05/10/16 Kansas City Royals Vs N.Y.Yankees at Yankee Stadium Bronx ny New York Yankees win 10-7 New York Yankees relief pitcher Aroldis Chapman #54 celebrates the win with New York Yankees catcher Brian McCann #34 after the game Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
05/10/19 Miami Marlins vs New York Mets at citifield queeens New York Mets lead 8-0 after 1 inning New York Mets second baseman Robinson Cano #24 gets a base hit in the 1st inning Neil Miller/The New York extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020

This day in sports,May 9th, by Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com

05/09/06 – boston red sox Vs. New York Yankees @ Yankee Stadium boston leads 7-2 after 4 innings/ #41 johnson faces the music as he is relived by joe torre in the 4th inning Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
padres vs mets mets lead on #12 alomar 2 run homer in the third inning Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
the mets mob #25 matsui as his double wins it in the bottom of the 12th inning/ Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
05/09/06 – boston red sox Vs. New York Yankees @ Yankee Stadium boston leads 3-2 after 3 innings/ #34 ortiz eludes the tag of #20 posada to score the 3rd boston run in the 3rd inning Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
05/09/07 texas rangers Vs. New York Yankees @ Yankee Stadium Neil Miller: streaker at yanks Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
05/09/09 giants rookie practice in the bubble at giants stadium #82 mario manningham Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
5/09/09 Pittsburgh Pirates vs New York Mets at Citi Field queens ny Mets lead 7-1 after 6 1/2 innings #10 gary sheffield makes this fine sliding catch to save a base hit in the 7th inning Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
05/09/10 ny yankees vs the boston red sox at fenway park boston mass boston leads 6-2 after 3 1/2 innings #28 joe girardi is thrown out of the game by hp ump tim mcclelland in the 4th inning Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
05/09/12 Stanley Cup Eastern Conference semi finals game #6 New York Rangers vs Washington Capitals at verizon center washington dc New York Rangers trail 1-0 after 1 period of a powerplay goal by Washington Capitals left wing Alex Ovechkin #8 seen here as New York Rangers goalie Henrik Lundqvist #30 wathces the puck get past him Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020

This day in sports, May 7th, by Neil Miller, The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com

#44 david wright Binghamton Mets, 3rd base/ Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
05/7/05 New York Giants mini-camp @ Meadowlands : Giants #27 Brandon Jacobs runs the ball at mini-camp practice today. Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
05/7/05 Oakland Athletics Vs. New York Yankees @ Yankee Stadium : Yankees #11 Gary Sheffield drops the bat after hitting an RBI double driving home #2 Derek Jeter in the first inning. Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
05/07/10 ny yankees vs the boston red sox at fenway park boston mass yanks lead 9-2 after 6 innings #28 joe girardi returnws to the dugout after derek jeter is hit by a pitch in the 6th inning Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
05/07/11 Los Angeles Dodgers Vs. New York Mets at Citi Field mets lead 4-2 after 8 inning #2 justin turner hits 2 run single in the 8th inning Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
05/07/13 Chicago White Sox vs New York Mets at Citi Field Queens NY New York Mets starting pitcher Matt Harvey #33 pitches in the 1st inning tonight Neil Miller The New York Extra/The NYExtra.com copyright 2020

This day in sports,May 5th, by Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com

05/05/07 Seattle Mariners Vs. New York Yankees @ Yankee Stadium Yankees Derek Jeter is out on a double play to end the first inning on a ball hit by Bobby Abreu. Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
05/05/12 Stanley Cup Eastern Conference semi finals game #4 New York Rangers vs Washington Capitals at verizon cener washington dc Washington Capitals lead 1-0 on a goal by Washington Capitals left wing Alex Ovechkin #8 in the 1st period as it gets behind New York Rangers goalie Henrik Lundqvist #30 Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
05/05/13 Pittsburgh Penguins vs New York Islanders stanley cup playoffs quarter finals game #3 at nassau coliseum uniondale ny Pittsburgh Penguins lead 4-2 after 2 periods New York Islanders right wing Kyle Okposo #21 and Pittsburgh Penguins defenseman Paul Martin #7 battle for the puck behind the Pittsburgh Penguins goal in the 2nd period Neil miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020
05/05/17 Miami Marlins vs New York Mets at citi field queens ny New York Mets relief pitcher Jeurys Familia #27 pitches in the 9th inning Neil Miller/The New York Extra/TheNYExtra.com copyright 2020

There Are Obstacles And Baseball Should Look At Next Year

“They want to play but there are obstacles”

That quote comes from a high ranking baseball official when asked about the potential or any start to the 2020 MLB season.  He speaks with MLB officials on a daily basis.  

But as each day passes, and as the Coronavirus pandemic continues, chances are the season being played at this point  he says, is “fifty-fifty.” And the obstacles are standing in the way.

From this perspective, and from the latest projections of the pandemic far from over, the 2020 baseball season should be put in the books as no games played, records on hold, contracts up in the air, and start up again next year,

For the well being of players, their families, and a fan base, the best option is look at 2021, though that same official did not offer that ray of optimism about a normal  baseball season next year.

Basically, we have come to realize that things will not be the same if and when this pandemic is in control.  That pertains to baseball, all sports, and everything that was prior to COVID-19.

And if MLB seeks to get their players back on the field, as the official said, “They have a lot to overcome. They could get it done.  But if something  happens it all goes down the tubes.”

Going down the tubes is significant in the event a season begins and proper testing for COVID-19 reveals a player, coach, staff, or officials test positive. That would become the obstacle. 

Any type of abbreviated and different season would be down the tubes, with the worst possible scenario of putting in the effort to start a 2020 season in late June or by July 4th, and then shut down.

“No one knows what’s happening for tomorrow,” said the official.  “I know that MLB is super motivated to play. They really want to play because they will be the only game in town.”

He believes MLB can recoup from their financial downfall. The players are getting paid, though not a full salary, through the end of this month.  The financial burden won;t hurt the player with a mega contract as much as it does with the player making a minimum salary. 

And the few players contacted by The Ny extra.com are not in favor of the latest MLB concept of splitting a potential season into three divisions. Nor are they for playing in three venues in the states of Florida, Arizona, or Texas.

They want to see fans in the seats, of course so do the owners. Besides that significant revenue from the various network and regional television deals it is the fans that bring in a significant part of the revenue stream for MLB.

All  of the 30 teams are estimated to be  losing $300 million or more since the shutdown. Four weeks of the schedule, listed as postponements, have resulted in furloughs of front office personnel and major reductions in salaries.

Though the June 10th amateur draft is on schedule, the official said there will be no minor league operations this year. There is talk about an expanded instructional league at some point of six or seven weeks.

 But all of this, like the start of the season, remains to be determined. Tampa Bay is the one team to cut back on their scouting division. Eventually, and after the draft,  scouts currently on staff could be furloughed and analytics will take over. 

Scouts are continuing to conduct evaluations, looking at  prospects, trades, and who is on the bubble from spring training. That is a routine that would be taking place if the MLB season was in progress.

Again, there are obstacles.  And all of the talk, the contingency plans, they don’t move forward without the consultation of  medical authorities at the CDC and others that MLB is in consultation  with on a daily basis. 

Which brings us back to the point of these obstacles. This is not a move to the finish line as to what sport will resume first and how they will do it. It comes down to the safety of the players and others.

It comes down to baseball being played on the field with no fans in the stands. That revenue stream is significant and the issue of no fans could be going into 2021.

It all depends on where we stand with this pandemic, knowing of course that we are not out of the woods.

And as much as there is a buzz of the Yankees, Mets, Red Sox, and Braves in the same division, that would bring television ratings, most of the players that were contacted were not for the concept.

That, the players, is a major obstacle along with how their contracts and reductions of salaries would be impacted due to an abbreviated season. 

It would not be a normal season. And a postseason played in November is not baseball no matter where it is played.  A champion would not come out of a World Series and a Commissioner trophy would be something else.

That **** would have to be placed in the season and how legitimate would be the records? The individual honors of batting champion, MVP’s Cy Young Awards? 

Again, so many obstacles. And from this perspective, as much as I want baseball, it won’t be the same. Call it a day and wait until next year with the hope we can be back to some type of normalcy that is safe and proper for all.

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